You know those lists of TV shows canceled too soon? There's plenty of them floating around. I've made
one myself, maybe more. When I was just starting to learn about pop culture I would often turn to these kinds of lists to learn where to look. "Canceled too soon" was an especially intriguing topic because it meant the shows were good but unpopular and I am very alternative. Two shows that usually show up on such lists are
Firefly and
Freaks and Geeks. I think that's where it all began; my obsession with the creators of those two shows and the connection they share in my mind. That's how I started seeing the patterns that may or not be there. How I became convinced that
Joss Whedon and
Judd Apatow are intrinsically linked.
The main connection is that both directors have a group of actors they've worked with repeatedly, as in the "frequent collaborators" section of their Wikipedia page. That's common for a lot of directors; Quentin Tarantino with Samuel L. Jackson and Uma Thurman, John Hughes with Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall, Tim Burton with Johnny Depp and his now ex-wife Helena Bonham Carter. The difference, in my diseased mind, is that Apatow and Whedon's collaborators (a word which here means "anyone who has worked with the director several times or had major roles in at least one venture") have a tendency to work together on other projects. This theory focuses on two television series that were quite popular in the height of Whedatow in the late '00s,
Bones and
How I Met Your Mother.
Bones stars
David Boreanez as one half of a crime solving duo. Boreanez also worked with Whedon for seven years as Angel in
Buffy the Vampire Slayer and its spinoff
Angel. In its third season
Bones introduced
John Francis Daley, geek Sam Weir of Apatow's
Freaks and Geeks, as psychologist Lance Sweets.
Carla Gallo, who has appeared in several Apatow films but is most famous for her role in his second "cancelled too soon" series
Undeclared, plays Sweets' love interest. Also,
Bones' entomologist Jack Hodgins is played by
T.J. Thyne who appeared with Boreanez in three episodes of
Angel. On a related note, Daley wrote the upcoming film
Vacation starring
Christina Applegate, who was in both of Apatow's
Anchorman films, and features
Chris Hemsworth, who of course worked with Whedon on the
Avengers films and
Cabin in the Woods.
In a way
How I Met Your Mother is the centerpiece of Whedatow. It features a marriage between Whedon and Apatow's frequent collaborators.
Jason Segel and
Alyson Hannigan play "perfect couple" Marshall and Lily. Segel starred in both
Freaks and Geeks and
Undeclared and has worked with Apatow on four different movies. Hannigan starred in
Buffy the Vampire Slayer as Willow Rosenberg.
HIMYM also stars
Cobie Smulders and
Neil Patrick Harris, who have worked with Whedon on the
Avengers films and the web series
Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog respectively.
Then there's James Gunn's live action Scooby-Doo movies.
Sarah Michelle Gellar, the titular Buffy of
Vampire Slayer, plays Daphne (the purple one) and
Linda Cardellini, the titular main freak of
and Geeks, plays Velma (the orange one).
Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed also features
Seth Green and
Tim Blake Nelson who appeared in Whedon's
Vampire Slayer and Apatow's
Heavyweights respectively.
It's not unheard of for one of Judd's collaborators to appear in one of Joss's projects or vice versa.
Felicia Day, who starred in
Dr. Horrible and appeared in
Buffy, was in one episode of
Undeclared. Linda Cardellini recently made a surprise appearance in
Avengers: Age of Ultron. Amy Addams, the romantic lead in Apatow's
Talladega Nights, was also in an episode of
Buffy.
Alan Tudyk, the best part of
Firefly and most things he's in, had a small role in Apatow's
Knocked Up.
David Krumholtz, who worked with Apatow in
Freaks,
Undeclared, Superbad, and
Walk Hard appeared as exposition wizard Mr. Universe in the
Firefly sequel movie
Serenity.
Danny Strong, who appeared in 29 episodes of
Buffy, has been in 2 episodes of
Girls which is produced by Apatow.
This goes all the way back to the early days of Joss and Judd's careers in the late 80's and early 90's. As far as I can tell the closest the two ever came to working on the same project is their connection to Roseanne Barr. A popular piece of pop culture trivia is that Whedon wrote a few episodes of Barr's landmark sitcom
Roseanne, but a less documented fact is that Judd started his career by writing
jokes for Barr's stand-up.
Maybe the strangest part is that neither has hardly ever acknowledged the other. I've been on Twitter for a long time and I follow a lot of celebrities, including the "J-vowel-double-letter-duo" as I affectionately call them. It's pretty common for famous people to tweet about whatever TV or film they're enjoying at the time, whether they have anything to do with it or not. Here are two of the biggest directors in Hollywood with vaguely similar careers and names and tons of mutual acquaintances and neither has every directly mentioned the other's work in any significant way. A Google search for their names only brings up the
Roseanne connection,
Judd jokingly referencing
Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Joss defending
The Interview, which Judd was not directly involved in but several of his collaborators were, and some more
listicles of course.
I'm not saying Whedon and Apatow have some secret feud. Anything is possible but I have no real evidence that they dislike each other whatsoever. It's much more likely that all this is merely the result of the world being small and strange, but it's even more likely the result of my small and strange brain. For the record, though, I'm pretty on board with an Appatow helmed
Buffy the Vampire Slayer relaunch. Or any continuation of
Buffy really. Or
Freaks and Geeks. Or
Firefly. Or
The Ben Stiller Show. Or
Dollhouse. Or
Undeclared.